Yes I had the system watcher enabled. I shut off a lot of things during the process of trouble shooting but I did not turn that off. I was able to get it to work for a week once and then the issues came back.
In the end I just removed AV because it was also blocking all software installation.... For example Microsoft updates ran and because AV was blocking the install that froze up the computers. Even though I had all the settings in the AV turned off it was still causing me issues.
The upgrade has created a lot of issues and it appears as though all of my settings are correct. I've also had someone from Landesk on my system to verify but no resolution as of yet.